I was told that it is a quality over quantity protocol, however Bzeety response would seem to negate that. I'm praying this protocol will be successfull for us. Need advice. Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. and also why some of us seem to have Pills that are not really needed. With IVF#1, I only got 2-3 mature follies. Best of luck! Each month is different and that 4 eggs could have been just an off month and not a predictor of your future cycles. Then my friend hadsuccess with Micro dose lupron flareprotocol so I asked my dr to put me on the exact same one. Thin Lining - stim protocol - suggestions? I'm wondering if any Im struggling with responding to meds over 40. Switch Protocol 2nd Time Around? Any help would be greatly appreciated looking for hope this time around.. Hi everyone, does anyone have any thoughts on which protocol is better for older women and which protocol is best for retrieving good quality, chromosomally normal eggs? So we didnt biopsy & test then freeze. G&B born 6/30/14 at 33w3d via emergency c/s. I think it helps with the 2ww. Transfered a blast and early blast and froze one. . I have no input on EPP but I am so excited you're starting up!!! Estrogen priming and the agonist-antagonist conversion protocol is at least as successful as the microdose flare protocol based on medical data. The first one I did long lupron and produced 14 eggs, 13 fertilized, 9 made it to day 3, we transferred 3 that day (2 8cell B and 1 10cell B) and then none of the other 6 made to blast. 150 iu follistim and 75 iu menopure didn't work either. IVF 1 - on BCP protocol. 9 eggs retrieved, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 1 arrest on day 3, the other arrested on day 5. I'm nervous that round 2 will go the same way as round 1. 39 year old multiple failed cycles need advice. My first retrieval resulted in no viable embryos. We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. In the regular IVF protocol, Lupron and BCP are used for at least 2 weeks before ovarian stimulation. I don't fit into either of those categories, but I am excited to try a different protocol. HOORAY. I went through Dr. Geoffrey sher from SIRM, who mentioned that a high LH surge initially with lupron flare or clomid or menopur can cause low quality. Afte, Hi all, Adding Cetrotide. It's not your first rodeo here." I will access my frozen eggs in.june hopefully. The study was also occur on estrogen priming protocol ivf per cycle is very focused on converting to create a newborn? MENTS We also added microfluidics to our last two cycles, you can check out the Zymot chip and ended up with twice the number of embryos that made it to blast. Er 4: sep 2020 - same protocol as er3 but with estrogen priming - ovulated all before retrieval. Start by selecting which of these best describes you! And this time we are also going to do 225 follistim (x2/day) and 75 menupur (x2/day). Wehave3 CCS Normal Embryos! Even though my eggs were older as I was 37 at the time, versus 35 when I started, we transferred 2 and were successful with a singleton. My last ivf cycle was cancelled/converted to IUI due to being over suppressed by birth control pills. However, that information will still be included in details such as numbers of replies. Anyone have good success? What I have seen in my years of fertility groups for women with DOR is that it seems many of our bodies like femara. it helps prevent ovulation - 1/8 tablet or 1/4 tablet, inserted vaginally, overnight (and i use a special silicone plug, AND, /the inner plunger from a tampon applicator/, to push the plug deeper or else it slides out if you need to use the loo, during the night. First time posting here. For those who have PCOS which IVF Protocol was successful for you? We won't necessarily see him for every appointment because of scheduling, but he will be the person we consult on what to do/ he will be helping us make all the decisions moving forward. 0000003164 00000 n 375-450IU Gonal, 250mcg Ganirelix, 20-50units low dose HCG, pregnyl trigger. My FSH is 12. I did microdose lupron flare protocol with my first IVF. Does anyone have experience with this protocol? xref We started our second cycle on Friday (7th). Both my l, Short protocol or long protocol for older women. - Estrogen patch 14 days, prio, Hi all, An EPP for your friend. Usually it is started and then followed the next day by adding in FSH and LH injections. Instead we are doing estrogen priming followed by microdose lupron. I am 41, so getting frustrated now with all these premature ovulation. Did anyone have success with MDL high dose protocol for DOR and over 40? Thanks. Previos Post Next Post 5DT. My new protocol is Estrogen Priming Antagonist. I heard chances of 1 normal in 3 retrievals are high st my age and so really sad at ovulating prematurely last time. Estrogen Primed Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol . Five days before her last BCP, she will start Lupron. I did 9 IVF attempts in 2 years - high stim, low stim, mid-stim, estrogen-priming. So for this 3rd FET my dr has added in estrogen injections. Are you sure you want to block this member? TTC 2 years. We did MDLF on the third cycle and were able to freeze 5 (untested). Non left to freeze --> BFN IVF#5 (April/May 2014): Antagonist Estrogen Priming -Cornell Protocol (Clomid+ Menopur+Gonal F + Orgalutran) Start Lupron: Start your microdose Lupron 20 units subcutaneous injection twice a day. 11 retrieved, 10 matured and fertilized and 4 blasts and 1 normal. Where do we go from here? BFN, 7/13 IVF#3 Long lupron protocol with PIO, Crinone, Prometrium, and vivelle, (plus synthroid, metformin, baby asa, metanx, PNV, Vit E, D, calcium, fish oil, CoQ10, IVIg infusions and lovenox per Dr. Kwak-kim). Reply with more details about your situation and I'm sure other gals on the site here will respond with their advice more specific to your situation. I'm trying to dig up information about stim doses (since Dr C says I'll still be on a lot of meds?) I replied to your original post, just wanted to say I'm glad you also posted over here to get more stories. Hopefully the last one will be your miracle! Any input / thoughts are greatly appreciated! It is quality that matters. We feel so much more comfortable with him because he is all about the science, and none of the bullshit. Stage IV Endo. Like usually day 17 or something. Dr. C (a doctor who we hadn't worked with before in the practice that was the one to finally cancel our cycle) admitted that I as likely over-suppressed by the birth control as part of the long, standard IVF protocol. 0000000960 00000 n startxref agonist, antagonist, etc) My little one is a success story from MDL! Completely unexplained - sperm count is fine. HB 132 & everything measuring on track. I did my first IVF at 39 got 3 embryos with one pgta normal. I'm sorry to hear about your 2 unsuccessful transfers. How are you feeling? I just got my calendar today and I'm getting ready to start Lupron. The other thing is they tell me that with microdose your retrieval is later. So I know that you begin with birth control (but I, I've had one unsuccessful IVF and one that had such a poor response we turned it into an IUI instead. Estrace(90 tabs)-estrogen Hi Again, Woot woot!! He had a vasectomy after his second child. More about us: Lupron Depot is used in women to treat symptoms of endometriosis (overgrowth of uterine lining outside of the uterus) or uterine fibroids. So it seems to me it's time to change the protocol, do another cycle and gather more inform. Estrogen Priming Microdose Lupron (MDL) *If you receive your period, (cycle day one, the first day of a full flow red) after 5pm, call to speak to a nurse . At 43 I see now looking back it truly is egg quality. Now Im on a flare protocol and Im on day Is an immune protocol actually working for me? This is is my best response so far as I've never before had blasts to freeze. Group Leaders arent expected to spend any additional time in the community, and are not held to a set schedule. In the regular IVF protocol, Lupron and BCP are used for at least 2 weeks before ovarian stimulation. Good luck! During the first few days of Lupron, the ovaries are stimulated by the natural pituitary hormones (the flare . A Group Leader is a What to Expect community member who has been selected by our staff to help maintain a positive, supportive tone within a group. Background: I'm 35. And I followed it up with "And unfortunately, it's not my 2nd or 3rd either." But ever since then, despite having a lot of embryos, we were never able to repeat this success. Thanks! Can someone explain to me the difference in the protocols? This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. EPP with CCRM has been my best cycle yet in regards to embryo quantity and quality! Has anyone done this Lupron STOP protocol? I'm going to talk to the doctor soon about our options. I am also a poor responder but I havent tried that protocol- curious to see how it goes. Er 1: 5 mature eggs, follistim 200 iu everyday with ganirelix, no menopur, no priming - frozen. My E2 never soared like some women'son the day of my trigger my E2 was only 1563, but I still got 16 eggs. The calendar shown above is an example of how the cycle stimulation may evolve. Right now, they are doing an antagonistic approach. does your doctor use a medication called "orlissa" ? I never imagined having to get to #4, but I know none of us do. . Get weekly updates on baby and your body. I've got my pompoms ready to cheer you on!!!! Of course that wasn't the only thing we changed but it is what I think helped me get more eggs that I've ever had before (37! Sounds like CC.RM is doing EPP Oprah-style. Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol. 43 &37 eggs?! Suite 1200 Stimulation Day 4 Come in for an E2 and LH blood test. And can someone generally explain the 'steps' to me? I'm super excited for you, yay!!! Well, the answer is that I did a LOT! I did that protocol for 3 IUI's and subsequent IVF and it turns out I'm a low responder with DOR, so that is not the right protocol for me. The eggs are weaker as we get older and in turn weaker embryos. 16 0 obj<> endobj Er2: 7 mature eggs, follistim 250 iu with ganirelix, no priming. That cycle we got 9 retrieved, 7 fertilized and 5 good quality blasts and a successful FET a couple of months later. Group Leaders communicate with staff moderators and escalate potential violations for review, but they dont moderate discussions. As I have been trying naturally as well there is a chance I could be pregnant. IVF1 (ICSI): Long Lupron What's weird is all of my levels are normal and i'm so young so i think the doctor and nurses are all perplexed as to how my egg quality was so bad! Utilizing advanced tools and technologies, our doctors take on the toughest cases, providing renewed hope for would-be parents. On the other hand, the Long Agonist protocol can't use Lupron as the trigger because it already deploys Lupron elsewhere. Treatment history: 31F/29M, 0.9 AMH, 10 FSH, 6-12AFC, mild LPD/dysfolliculogenesis/unexplained. Hi has anyone done a MENOPUR only cycle? Thanks! I think so because I was usually stimming with 300 Follistim before, but I'll check. 1Frostie. I did this protocol for my cycle. We had some other changes too, with DH. Doc consult at the end of this month. I go in for a check Thursday am. DH 38- Low EverythingMe 33- AMH .9Married 11 years 2002-current IUIs, meds, natural = All BFNAug. Besides, I hear regular lupron sucks so I'm grateful I didn't have to do that part. Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. Antagonist Protocol or Short Protocol: This is the most commonly used IVF . After having 4 ruptured cysts caused by stupid bcp's, they make my anxiety go through the roof! Lazer T, Liu A, et al. So,here's my list- :), I'm confused by all the information out there for women over 40. A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. 505 Apparently we waited too long ? Find advice, support and good company (and some stuff just for fun). xb```"V2>c`0p40. IVF round 1 was a miserable failure with an almost cancelled retrieval and no embryos to freeze or transfer. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Please whitelist our site to get all the best deals and offers from our partners. An EPP for EVERYONE!!! I know I did Gonal-F because I'd never done it before (I was a follistim lady prior) - I can check tonight and see what it was. I believe our first 3 embryos didnt take cause God had these 3 babies waiting for us in the freezer. I did lupron stop protocol for IVF#1, but I was still oversuppressed. (My clinic requires ICSI and PGS testing for all patients). If you feel a message or content violates these standards and would like to request its removal please submit the following information and our moderating team will respond shortly. (I did not use a lot of what was ordered.) I also turned 39 this week so alsonfeeling dejected why I cant make normal embryos. Oestrogen primed micro dose lupron protocol - here you take oestrogen 7 days after you ovulate and stop when you get your AF. But I am starting my next as soon as my period starts. Femara-Antagonist Protocol. Def try the microdose lupron flare and let us know how it turns out!!!! I have DOR (My AMH was 0.38 and 0.27 in 2016, but somehow it increased to 1.36 in Jan 2017). Then di, I had a regular IVF cycle 1 month ago. 3F. After the 6th negative pregnancy test, they did a "pregnancy loss" bloodwork panel. . Ive been priming for transfer for 11 days and Im only at 6.7mm. My little one is a success story from MDL! Thanks everyone. I don't remember my protocol. 0000009528 00000 n The sad part of the story is that my dr was so excited and confident I would get pregnant he transfered In all 3 fresh cycle. ?? Now.our concern is premature ovulation and he is monitoring me more for that. Also, if any of you CCRM girls have any words of wisdom, I will take those too! April '14 Planning IVF attempt #3. Baby girl born Aug 2013 What did do when you had a cancelled IVF cycle? The patient is given twice-weekly injections of estradiol valerate (Delestrogen) for a period of 8 days whereupon COS is initiated using a relatively high dosage FSH- (Follistim, Fostimon, Puregon or Gonal F), which is continued along with daily administration of GnRH antagonist until the "hCG "trigger." I wonder what if that's the cycle that had the normal egg. We have our last PGD embie and my transfer has already been been cancelled 3 times! Next protocol will be micro dose lupron. We retrieved 4 eggs. Will I start to see the follicles and it's just too early?? I think I am most excited that I did NOT have to take bcp's! IVF#4 (Dec2013/Jan 2014): Microdose flare+Saizen+testosterone 4 eggs retrieved, all mature and fertilized by ICSI, ET of 1 6-cell embryo an 1 8-cell embryo graded 2 and 3. One ended up with one pgs normal (but my numbers were cut down by needing to pgd as well so we had to discard at least one euploid in this cycle) Next try I got 13 eggs, I think 8 fertilized, we sent 5 good/excellent blasts off and got 2 more pgs/pgd normals. Only thing I can pinpoint is age. Thank you. Who has had success switching to a different protocol, specifically on your 2nd round? 0000002254 00000 n Slow growing/No follicles with Lupron Stop protocol? Hello all, I need some feedback. I am currently priming with growth hormone waiting for my period. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Jo, have you heard of the estrogen priming protocol? Amazing! Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. 2nd U/S @ 7w2d. The educational health content on What To Expect is reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts to be up-to-date and in line with the latest evidence-based medical information and accepted health guidelines, including the medically reviewed What to Expect books by Heidi Murkoff. Are you sure you want to block this member? I did do both natural start and primed and my response was the same. Femara-Antagonist Protocol. Thank you. How many days do you take menopur for IVF? Devastated! 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